oh yea, you know how...satan, once one of God's highest angels, decided to one day over-take God's throne. Like, this horrible thought just popped into my mind.
I always wondered how, in such a perfect, sinless place like heaven, Satan, could possibly imagine of doing such a thing. I mean, where did that SIN even come from...that jealousy...i don't get it. How can 'something'...come out of 'nowhere', when it was never 'anywhere'. Something=sin, anywhere=Holy-ness, Righteousness, God's light, not sin.
It also made me sorta wonder...that when WE got to heaven, could we end up doing the same thing? A place where there are no tears, and no sin. Would it be possible that someone would follow in Satan's footseps, i hope not. So far, there hasn't rite...
Sometimes, i feel like im askin so many questions that im starting to feel like im challenging the Bible. Is this right? I don't know where all these questions are coming from..
1) first, how'd sin originate.
2) As children of God, could we still fall away, even in a sinless heaven.
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well, when people talk about the origin of sin, it is always referred to the fall of man -- Adam and Eve and the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
the account of how Satan fell is not the origin of sin. (remember that sin is just being "off the mark" from the holiness and perfection that God is.) Also remember that sin originated because Adam and Eve disobeyed God and ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. (The following is to my knowledge at this time. Perhaps refer to more scholarly sources.) Therefore, good and evil must have been theoretically occured before Adam and Eve sinned (since the fruit from this tree gave wisdom on discerning good from evil).
Evil existed before sin did. Evil is not something man created by sinning. Evil was there in the garden of Eden as the serpent tempted Adam and Eve (if you define evil as the absence of good -- the serpent was definitely not good, therefore was evil).
In response to your second question, Revelation tells us that when we get to heaven, we will see God face to face. We will become FULLY LIKE HIM. Our salvation is made complete (justification, sanctification, and now finally glorification). And if then we are fully like Him, then we would have no need of being greater than God, because we would be fully like Him, worshipping Him for who He is. As children of God on earth, we are learning and becoming molded into people who will fear God and becoming these children that worship Him -- we are not children of God with the intention of becoming greater than Him. God did not intend for us to grow this way on earth... and to my best understanding, will not intend for us to have this intention either.
Why did God even allow Satan and evil/jealousy to occur... no idea. And that is a question we will never know the answer to =)
sorry. One more thing.
HOWEVER. God did create the world and said that it was GOOD. So now i'm not too fully sure about the whole "evil existed before sin did".
Perhaps evil did not exist on the earth yet (since God declared that what he created was good)....
eh. it's late at night. =) go ask Bernard... perhaps he can give you a better answer.
Whoa, great insight, Jon.
k, so the key is, "sin" is directly related to "man". It is different from "evil". okie, thanks.
oh then how did..."evil" come to be. Well, i guess the answer is just that it existed, we'll hafta assume...
In the beginning was "evil" ..and "good".
Then how did Satan turn evil. And i know we won't cuse i guess we are different from Satan in the way that...We WILL be...EXACTLY, like God. Okie.
Lol and wut u doin up so late!
the question i always had in my mind was: how can evil, come out of good...
Maybe, when he said it was "good", he meant that he made the world good, without evil. But still, there is such a thing known as "evil". (well, exactly what you said lol)
yea, usually this stuff, i do ask Bern...but i haven't in a while.
Can't wait to ask God bout all this stuff.
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